1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:09,490 [Music] 2 00:00:16,359 --> 00:00:12,890 so as Alejandra said this is my first 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:16,369 ever presentation except you know 4 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:18,570 talking about UFOs with some co-workers 5 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:20,369 at work and whatnot 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:22,800 so I want to thank all of you for coming 7 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:26,130 to this today and to follow Travis 8 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:28,939 Walton is a little bit of pressure so 9 00:00:35,299 --> 00:00:31,529 again thank you and we're in this 10 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:35,309 together so yeah well we'll get this 11 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:39,750 started um my talk today is basically 12 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:43,140 broken into two halves in the first half 13 00:00:55,549 --> 00:00:52,330 basically a group or a handful of 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:55,559 witnesses and experiencers that I've 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:00:57,930 personally researched their stories and 16 00:01:06,670 --> 00:01:02,010 how we can sort of connect that to the 17 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:06,680 study of ufology I've always been very 18 00:01:12,289 --> 00:01:09,180 fascinated by characters like Alejandro 19 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:12,299 mentioned I am a playwright and I love 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:16,470 to know how people tick how they react 21 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:19,290 in certain situations and ultimately how 22 00:01:24,890 --> 00:01:21,390 they change and I found that very 23 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:24,900 apparent in the UFO phenomenon as well 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:28,880 what is the aftermath of seeing a UFO or 25 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:31,530 possibly having an encounter or an 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:34,079 abduction experience so we'll cover that 27 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:36,570 in the first half and the second half I 28 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:40,310 really want to get into what is ufology 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:44,399 we ever since the modern UFO era we've 30 00:01:50,810 --> 00:01:47,329 attempted to study the phenomena yet 31 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:50,820 very few determinations have ever really 32 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:53,640 come forward so we'll look at just 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:01:56,820 exactly how ufos can be intrinsically 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:01:59,490 linked to every realm of study in the 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:03,210 most human of ways and how at the very 36 00:02:11,380 --> 00:02:05,610 core of this phenomenon it is those 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:14,900 this might talk today UFOs verse ufology 38 00:02:20,690 --> 00:02:17,690 the convergence of experience and study 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:20,700 so a little bit about me 40 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:24,690 I got involved with this subject at a 41 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:27,840 very young age I am not only interested 42 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:30,209 in it I believe I came face-to-face with 43 00:02:36,259 --> 00:02:32,489 it when I was 12 years old 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:36,269 this happened in 1995 I was on a summer 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:38,010 getaway with my parents 46 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:41,010 I loved fishing and I was fishing at 47 00:02:47,870 --> 00:02:44,280 night off of a dock and I noticed three 48 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:47,880 white lights in the reflection off the 49 00:02:54,770 --> 00:02:50,430 water so you know I thought maybe it was 50 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:54,780 a plane so I look up and this is 51 00:03:01,430 --> 00:02:57,630 basically what I saw it was probably 52 00:03:04,699 --> 00:03:01,440 about 200 or so feet above me there was 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:04,709 a hazy red light in the center and it 54 00:03:09,259 --> 00:03:06,690 just sort of coasted over the water 55 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:09,269 heading towards this was the st. 56 00:03:14,059 --> 00:03:11,880 Lawrence River in central New York which 57 00:03:17,150 --> 00:03:14,069 also borders Canada and it was actually 58 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:17,160 heading towards the Canadian border now 59 00:03:23,330 --> 00:03:20,400 I did scream for my father to come out 60 00:03:27,559 --> 00:03:23,340 to see this thing and there was a 61 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:27,569 Yankees game on TV so there wasn't there 62 00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:28,769 was really nothing that was going to get 63 00:03:33,770 --> 00:03:31,350 him away from that but I did I did I got 64 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:33,780 him to come out and he did see the tail 65 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:38,760 end of this thing as it drifted off he 66 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,180 told me it was a plane I knew I knew 67 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:44,400 different you know even at the age of 12 68 00:03:51,229 --> 00:03:46,769 it was unlike anything I'd seen before 69 00:03:54,559 --> 00:03:51,239 and it terrified me it really did it 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:54,569 that fear turned to an obsession and I 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:03:57,090 began to take out book after book from 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:00,450 the Monday Branch Library in Syracuse 73 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:03,690 New York where I'm originally from and I 74 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:05,310 started to interview people in my 75 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:09,630 hometown about UFO reports and sightings 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:12,470 that they had had and one of the first 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:16,410 people I came across was a Vietnam 78 00:04:21,710 --> 00:04:19,289 veteran who had worked on a command and 79 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:21,720 communications vessel for the Navy and 80 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:23,780 he had a very dramatic UFO 81 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:26,540 citing over the water with four other 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:30,380 Navy officers they witnessed seven orbs 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:32,810 orange in color floating over the 84 00:04:38,530 --> 00:04:35,530 Pacific Ocean in a boomerang formation 85 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:38,540 now this guy had never spoken about this 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:41,480 before so I was very honored that I was 87 00:04:46,450 --> 00:04:43,130 the first that he was bringing it up to 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:46,460 but I was also 13 at the time 89 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:49,250 so what was I going to do with this 90 00:04:54,940 --> 00:04:52,400 information well bring it to the only 91 00:04:58,330 --> 00:04:54,950 person an institution that I can think 92 00:05:04,090 --> 00:04:58,340 of and that was Miss McCrone my 7th 93 00:05:06,250 --> 00:05:04,100 grade English teacher and John T Roberts 94 00:05:09,070 --> 00:05:06,260 middle school which was my UFO Reporting 95 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,080 Center apparently we had to write a 96 00:05:13,810 --> 00:05:11,600 report on something mysterious that we 97 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:13,820 found of interest so naturally at this 98 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:18,620 time it was only UFOs for me eventually 99 00:05:23,950 --> 00:05:21,080 my writing on the topic grew and I 100 00:05:26,650 --> 00:05:23,960 started to branch out I started 101 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:26,660 interviewing people from not just my 102 00:05:30,850 --> 00:05:29,000 neighborhood but all over the world this 103 00:05:36,190 --> 00:05:30,860 would eventually lead to me writing for 104 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:36,200 open minds magazine and you know various 105 00:05:41,170 --> 00:05:38,270 other magazines as well alternative 106 00:05:44,650 --> 00:05:41,180 magazines and it really opened a lot of 107 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:44,660 doors for me and when I'd interview 108 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:46,880 these people there was there was 109 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:48,860 something that really struck me I 110 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:51,320 noticed that when I'd interview them I'd 111 00:05:54,969 --> 00:05:53,990 be scribbling little notes in the 112 00:05:58,750 --> 00:05:54,979 margins 113 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,760 I would I would put down the size of the 114 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:01,280 craft I would put down what time of day 115 00:06:10,630 --> 00:06:05,680 it was how far up it was but what really 116 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:10,640 captured my my passion was hearing how 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:13,400 it affected them in the moment and after 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:18,289 the event and this eventually culminated 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:23,330 into a project for me over two years in 120 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:24,410 fact 121 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:27,340 and I interviewed hundreds of 122 00:06:34,029 --> 00:06:30,710 individuals from all over the world and 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:34,039 I really focused on the aftermath of the 124 00:06:38,530 --> 00:06:35,090 experience 125 00:06:40,689 --> 00:06:38,540 and how the event changed them this 126 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:40,699 culminated into my first book somewhere 127 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:43,310 in the skies a human approach to an 128 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:46,190 alien phenomenon so today I want to 129 00:06:51,159 --> 00:06:48,080 introduce you to a few of these 130 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:51,169 individuals we will see videos from them 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:54,380 directly as well and hear their stories 132 00:07:01,840 --> 00:06:57,650 and how their stories ultimately became 133 00:07:04,930 --> 00:07:01,850 my ethology a little about Scott he is a 134 00:07:07,390 --> 00:07:04,940 retired radio man first-class for the 135 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:07,400 Coast Guard he is also a retired postal 136 00:07:14,140 --> 00:07:10,790 service worker and a former MUFON field 137 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:14,150 investigator so this guy had experience 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:16,910 in terms of analyzing things and making 139 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:20,090 sense of them but this event changed all 140 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:24,260 that it was the summer of 1974 in 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Cuyahoga Falls Ohio Scott was at a 142 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:29,810 drive-in movie theater with a friend of 143 00:07:35,529 --> 00:07:32,930 his and just before the movie started 144 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:35,539 Scott notices something above the movie 145 00:07:42,490 --> 00:07:38,810 screen he asks his friend if he sees it 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:42,500 too and he says quote yeah what the hell 147 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:52,130 is that and this is what they saw the 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:55,340 object was pitch black no distinguishing 149 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:58,250 features it was boomerang shaped and it 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:01,280 was massive Scott told me that from 151 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:04,250 quote from tip to tip it covered the 152 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:07,450 entire parking lot of the drivin it 153 00:08:13,690 --> 00:08:10,190 coasted over the parking lot and all the 154 00:08:15,850 --> 00:08:13,700 lights in the venue went dead people 155 00:08:19,659 --> 00:08:15,860 tried starting their cars but nobody's 156 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:19,669 engines would turn over this is when 157 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:21,740 Scott's homemade that quote I could feel 158 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:29,850 go figure the air was very heavy and I 159 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:31,449 could see and actually feel it 160 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:35,710 shimmering a few things really stuck out 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:38,500 to Scott at this point everyone just 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:40,930 stared at the thing and they didn't 163 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:43,930 react almost like they were in some sort 164 00:08:49,710 --> 00:08:47,020 of trance like state the object 165 00:08:52,860 --> 00:08:49,720 disappears into a field and the lights 166 00:08:54,810 --> 00:08:52,870 all turned back on in the venue but the 167 00:08:58,079 --> 00:08:54,820 weirdest part of this entire event is 168 00:09:01,470 --> 00:08:58,089 that the movie starts people get in 169 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:01,480 their cars and they start to watch like 170 00:09:08,910 --> 00:09:07,390 nothing had just happened even Scott he 171 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:08,920 brings his friend home with no 172 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:10,870 recollection of what had just happened 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:13,510 it wasn't until many years later that he 174 00:09:17,579 --> 00:09:15,370 had a trigger event which we will hear 175 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:17,589 about in just a moment that brought all 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:21,040 of this to the surface with this is 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:24,250 Tracy Letts key she is a MUFON was a 178 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:27,850 MUFON starting field investigator she 179 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:30,490 was formerly employed by such agencies 180 00:09:35,699 --> 00:09:32,650 as the Department of Defense and 181 00:09:37,829 --> 00:09:35,709 Homeland Security she was also a 182 00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:37,839 certified private investigator 183 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:40,750 and she like I said she was also the 184 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:43,570 star team manager for Rapid Response 185 00:09:48,420 --> 00:09:46,150 cases with MUFON where they were sent 186 00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:48,430 out as an event was happening or had 187 00:09:55,079 --> 00:09:53,440 just occurred so on April 20th 2010 she 188 00:09:57,540 --> 00:09:55,089 was assigned to a case in Tennessee 189 00:10:00,150 --> 00:09:57,550 where multiple witnesses had reported 190 00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:00,160 seeing clusters of red and white lights 191 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:04,300 in the sky over their homes most of the 192 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:06,250 activity however came from a primary 193 00:10:11,790 --> 00:10:08,410 witness who would eventually contact 194 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:11,800 chase in a panic he told her he'd seen a 195 00:10:17,010 --> 00:10:14,110 triangular formation of lights the night 196 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:17,020 prior and the next morning helicopters 197 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:19,830 were circling his land appearing to be 198 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:23,800 searching for something chasing her star 199 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:25,690 team partner packed their bags and they 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:28,959 went to investigate there were brief 201 00:10:33,860 --> 00:10:30,850 introductions with the primary witness 202 00:10:37,170 --> 00:10:33,870 and it was dark at this point and 203 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:37,180 immediately chase noticed lights over a 204 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:38,350 cornfield 205 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:41,200 distance the witness brought her and her 206 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:42,850 partner out to the field to get a better 207 00:10:48,210 --> 00:10:45,850 look they set up their equipment and 208 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:48,220 noticed that the triangular formation 209 00:10:55,740 --> 00:10:52,390 the witness had seen had returned it was 210 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:55,750 actually heading right towards them she 211 00:11:00,620 --> 00:10:57,400 noticed a red light in the center and 212 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:00,630 noted that it was indeed a solid craft 213 00:11:07,130 --> 00:11:04,120 they tried to take photos and video but 214 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:07,140 all of their equipment had gone dead 215 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:10,510 convenient again the craft flew overhead 216 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:13,510 and disappeared out of sight immediately 217 00:11:21,690 --> 00:11:17,610 chase felt some sort of imposing threat 218 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:21,700 like they were being watched with just a 219 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:23,370 glance all three of the witnesses 220 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:26,650 started to leave the field they picked 221 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:29,020 up pace and then all of a sudden chase 222 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:31,390 slams into the back of the primary 223 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:35,680 witness he just yells what the bleep is 224 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:40,240 that he clearly didn't say bleep but we 225 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:44,800 will keep this PG and this is what they 226 00:11:55,020 --> 00:11:50,610 saw the being was about three feet tall 227 00:11:58,170 --> 00:11:55,030 large head and black eyes it's staring 228 00:12:01,460 --> 00:11:58,180 right at them at this point this only 229 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:01,470 happened for a moment and immediately 230 00:12:07,470 --> 00:12:05,290 they dart for their truck get in and 231 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:07,480 speed out of the cornfield as fast as 232 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:10,750 they can they get back to the witness's 233 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:13,600 home and assure one another that they'd 234 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:15,610 all just seen this being in the 235 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:31,019 so this this event this happened in real 236 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:35,080 time and chase was the first to admit to 237 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:38,050 me that you don't get all of these 238 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:42,670 things in one go you have a UFO sighting 239 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:45,070 you have a close encounter with a 240 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:47,410 triangular craft and then you see a 241 00:12:54,030 --> 00:12:49,600 freaking being in the middle of a 242 00:12:59,329 --> 00:12:54,040 cornfield so this is where she believed 243 00:13:02,970 --> 00:12:59,339 that this event seemed somehow planned 244 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:02,980 what that means she's still trying to 245 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:05,290 figure out and she struggles with that 246 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:08,410 again she felt this immediate threat 247 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:11,110 when they were in the cornfield almost